Looking for feedback on how similar or different these 2 colors are? Looking at photos it’s hard to see much difference, but I know photos are not a great representation for color nuances.
Thanks,
Eric
Bordeaux is more expensive, isn’t it?
Bordeaux has a funny effect after a couple of glasses.
Cranberry not so much…
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Bordello has a funny effect after a couple of seconds even thinking about it.
According to Gary
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Hi,
Paint colours? Which year? I have plenty of original Jaguar / Daimler colour charts from 1966 to 2008 but would need to know what to look for?
Never seen those, the ”burgundy” wine red paint in 1970-1976 was called “Regency Red” but I guess you mean something later like S3 XJ?
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Indeed, there’s so much sugar in the grapes nowadays the ethanol content just keeps getting bigger and bigger. (Hic) 
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Sorry I was not clear, '86 Cranberry and '87 Bordeaux, to be specific. Both fine years.
Thanks,
Eric
Hi Eric
No problem, I’ll check tomorrow what I can find.
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'87 also included the color of ‘crimson metallic’ '85 offered the color ‘cardinal red’
Hi,
Yes, with the launch of the new XJ40 model they introduced all kinds of new paints, some specific for the Daimlers which I believe came available in the US under the “Vanden Plas” versions.
So I guess the same paint was the also available on the V12 Series 3.
I have four different colour charts from 1979 to 1986 for the Seriews 3 XJ’s, unfortunately the one for 1986 does not have the paint codes, and the paint sample booklet also ends with 1985 models.
I’ll upload some pics shortly, you can of course also try to ask (Eric?) what you want to know.
I didn’t say it beforehand, but it’s perfectly possible Jaguar Cars US “translated” the “Claret” to “Bordeaux” as that is what it means in British English. 
In about 1982 the Silver was changed from “Silver Frost Metallic” BLVC 216 to a slightly lighter and brighter Silver called “Rhodium Silver Metallic” BLVC 396. (Publication No. Supplement 3488)
That same chart, publication No. 3380, first issued in March 1979 includes a non-metallic “wine red” called “Damson Red” BLVC 211 and a “bronze” metallic called “Chestnut Brown Metallic” BLVC 292.
The 1984/1985 chart J/EO/117 includes paint samples of a non-metallic “brown” called “Grosvenor Brown”, a metallic “wine red” called “Claret” and a metallic “brown” called “Chestnut” that looks the same as “Chestnut Brown Metallic” BLVC 292.
The 1986 chart “Colour & trim Guide” Jaguar / Daimler Ref. CC/UK/005 has no real paint samples, only printed charts for paint & trim with names, too bad it does not have the paint codes, but it does look as if the metallic “Claret” aka “Bordeaux” BLVC 310 is the same and the non-metallic “Grovenor Brown” is also unchanged BLVC 298.
Then it’s much harder to say if the “Cranberry” in that 1986 colour chart is just a renamed version of the “bronze” metallic “Chestnut” but the print does suggest it may be indeed a new paint, which was more red than the “Chestnut” which more more a brown bronze metallic paint.
Sorry I don’t think I have ever seen a “Cranberry” metallic paint live, nor do i have a paint sample card, but I can say it is / was lighter in tone than the longer lived “Claret” aka “Bordeaux” metallic wine red paint. Unfortunately that chart does not give a paint code for “Cranberry” but I believe it is BLVC 316. (British Leyland)
BLVC 316 CRANBERRY (CEE) MET
It was used by Rover from 1982 to 1983, paint code is: RA 3170.
Here’s a PDF file you can download and do searches with the BLVC codes:
http://www.lechler.eu/DesktopModules/Bring2mind/DMX/download.aspx?Command=Core_Download&EntryId=42803
The 1986 chart also has a supplement (no ref. or pub no. given) “Jaguar New colours and trims for 1986” that included a very dark “Jaguar Racing Green” (as opposed to the earlier very bright metallic “Racing Green” BLVC 281) and “Windsor Blue” and “Curlew” (metallic) as well as “Steel” (metallic) and new trims called “Barley” (leather), “Pennine” (tweed), “Cheviot” (tweed) and “Chiltern” (tweed).
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Hi,
Here’s one in Bordeuax (CEK) BLVC 310:
Nice to also see someone actually mounted the more appropriate “flying D” instead of a leaper.
And this is Cranberry: (not much different in photos I say)
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And the next thread in here has one in “Bordeaux” aka “Claret” BLVC 310 for you:
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