RE: 2020 Audi RS5 Sportback | UK Review

RE: 2020 Audi RS5 Sportback | UK Review

Friday 26th June 2020

2020 Audi RS5 Sportback | UK Review

Blink-and-you'll-miss-it update for the RS5 - but did anything need changing?



Yes, this definitely is the new Audi RS5 Sportback - let's cover that one off straightaway. While the changes are mild, compared side by side with the preceding model it becomes a lot clearer where this 2020 car has been tweaked. Whether it's an improvement or not is harder to ascertain, though once the new bonnet vents, reprofiled grille and R8-eque light design have been clocked, they don't go unnoticed again. From where we're standing, it feels like a facelift for the sake of a facelift, without much discernible benefit. But there's also a reason why we make our money buried behind a PC screen and not designing automobiles.

Inside the 2020 RS5 gives off a similar impression: it's mostly as before, but seemingly altered just because it could be. Most notable is the new 10.1-inch MMI centre touchscreen, which has removed the MMI dial that used to exist ahead of the gear lever. At first, all is well, because the screen is beautifully crisp and super responsive, and MMI remains as logical and pleasing as it almost always has been. But then you have to drive. And pay attention to the road. And sometimes switch between those tiny little CarPlay icons along the M4. And there's absolutely no way that a touchscreen in place of a dial there is advantageous, because there's always a second glance to ensure you're hovering in the right place. Of course it would improve with familiarity, but so did the old system, and that was always less of a distraction. However lovely the display will appear to be in a showroom the innate problems with a touchscreen interface remain. So there's one alteration we could have done without.

Also new for this update are 'RS1' and 'RS2' individual buttons, as also seen in the RS6; with the optional equipment on this car (including the sports exhaust and RS sport suspension plus with Dynamic Ride Control) that presents a veritable minefield of options. The engine sound can be 'Subdued', 'Automatic' or 'Pronounced', the Sport Differential behaviour is offered in 'Comfortable', 'Balanced' or 'Dynamic' variations and the suspension options mirror the diff. With a few more choices besides. As well as the 'Comfort', 'Auto' and 'Dynamic' pre-sets.



Now Audi is hardly alone in offering owners a bewildering array of dynamic options, because everybody is at it; the trouble with the RS5, on this experience at least, is that no chosen cocktail of chopping and changing seems to result in a wholly satisfying driving experience. Which, really, isn't an unreasonable request when parting with £67,000 for an Audi RS coupe - or £85k as tested. So Comfort feels a little too languid and lazy, and without even a hint at the potential that lies beneath. Dynamic, on the other hand, is too harsh, the throttle pedal acting like a switch (exacerbating the over aggressive kickdown) and the ride overly agitated.

Which, of course, is where the configurability comes in - right? Well, kind of. The RS5 does feel at its best with the suspension slightly less abrupt and the twin-turbo V6 wound up to its snarling, rasping best (and manual control over the gearbox with the nice new aluminium paddles) but it never quite pulls at the heartstrings with anything like the vigour at which it relentlessly pulls the horizon towards the windscreen. Which will matter to some more than most, granted.

Be in no doubt: the RS5 is a searingly rapid car, which is most likely why the twin-turbo V6 has remained in its 450hp/442lb ft state of tune. Even a few years after launch it picks up from very few revs, lunges for the redline with abandon and provides all the performance that could ever reasonably be asked for. The gearbox is maybe a little hesitant on the way down the ratios but snaps up through all eight on the way up, meaning the torrent of acceleration never really seems to subside.



Combine that with unimpeachable traction, fearsome grip and the stopping power of a dam and the RS5 is a formidable way of covering ground in any conditions - as it always was. However, its aloof and slightly synthetic take on a sports coupe remains frustrating from an enthusiast's perspective - because being a memorable driver's car as well as usable everyday one are not mutually exclusive traits.

Predictable, right? In the same way that a Costa coffee it too milky and a Domino's pizza too greasy, the binary fast Audi approach plumbed into the RS5 won't appeal to the purists. But, crucially, that won't stop it being popular. Anyone keen to immerse themselves in the of driving will still be better served by the thunderous Mercedes-AMG C63 or fast, slightly furious BMW M4. The wider buying public, though, especially those who've worked their way up through the Audi range hierarchy and have coveted an RS5 for a decade, will find plenty to like about this latest version.

Because for every person disappointed that it feels like an A5 with 450hp squeezed through its wider, flatter singleframe grille (as opposed to a totally reengineered performance coupe), there must be many more for whom that will sound ideal. For now, the velocity-at-all-costs approach sits a little more comfortably on the less ostensibly dynamic RS4 body; the RS5 - with four doors or two - isn't quite at the races when it comes to the cream of the sports coupe crop.


SPECIFICATION - AUDI RS5 SPORTBACK

Engine: 2,894cc, V6 biturbo
Transmission: eight-speed tiptronic, Quattro permanent all-wheel drive
Power (hp): 450@5,700-6,700rpm
Torque (lb ft): 443@1,900-5,000rpm
0-62mph: 3.9sec
Top speed: 155mph (optional 174mph)
Weight: 1,720kg
MPG: 31.4 (NEDC combined)
CO2: 207g/km
Price: £67,505 (price as tested £85,360 comprised of Alloy wheels 9J x 20 for £2,375, Carbon Black styling package in high gloss for £770, Advanced key with electric hands free boot opening system for £1,100, Matrix LED headlights with Audi laser lights for 870, Storage package for £195, Extended LED interior Lighting package, multi coloured for £195, Electric front seats with memory for £210, RS Sport exhaust system for £1,250, RS sport suspension plus with Dynamic Ride Control for £2,000.00, Panoramic glass sunroof for £1,400, Heated front and outer rear seats for £390.00, Carbon inlays for £995.00, Black exterior mirror housings for £110.00, Speed restriction increase to 174mph for 1,500, Park Assist for £280.00, Bang & Olufsen 3D Sound System for £850, Full leather package for £670, On The Road costs (Delivery charge, half a tank of fuel, and number plates (inc. VAT) is £660 and Road fund licence is £1,305.)
















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GTEYE

Original Poster:

2,099 posts

211 months

Thursday 25th June 2020
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A beautiful colour that almost nobody will choose.

Other than that, the overriding impression is it’s expensive for an A5 and with options...oh dear god. A good buy used in a few years at £30k but at £80k+...no thanks.
Obviously nearly all will be bought on lease, but it’ll be an expensive lease I would guess.

Turini

421 posts

167 months

Thursday 25th June 2020
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I've owned several Audi's including S models but the new cars leave me cold. I'm not certain whether its their overt technical presentation or that I feel they are trying a smidge too hard with the offering, either way I instantly feel more comfortable with an AMG interior and the feel of the car even if I know deep down the longevity probably won't be the same (far too many of our recent MB cars have had to go back for niggling and more or less ignored systems glitches and other issues).

At £85k its within striking distance of a 911 Carrera with the obligatory £10k worth of options and I know which one I'd have on the drive any day, the wife can use the SUV and lug the kit about, I can treat the kids to being in the back of a proper sports car..

whp1983

1,175 posts

140 months

Thursday 25th June 2020
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Audi cliche bingo..... need not have read it!

therams

248 posts

186 months

Thursday 25th June 2020
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Soooo expensive

Even on a lease or pcp it must be pushing £1000 a month

gigglebug

2,611 posts

123 months

Thursday 25th June 2020
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article said:
is that no chosen cocktail of chopping and changing seems to result in a wholly satisfying driving experWhich
Satisfying driving what now?

I like the aesthetics and I kinda like the idea of the RS5, and this might just be pot luck but the partners Audi has been the perfect ownership experience for her so far (even the dealer), but I’m still not sure that I would aspire to have one over the other choices of fast, midsized, four door rocket ships. Always been decent places to be in, in my experience anyhow, but bar a few noteworthy exceptions Audis have never got me that excited.

arkenphel

484 posts

206 months

Thursday 25th June 2020
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Why the big push to remove idrive type controllers from cars. I find muscle memory with clicky controls so much safer than prodding icons on a screen. These designers don't really live in a practical world, I think sometimes.


DeWar

906 posts

47 months

Thursday 25th June 2020
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The grease levels of Dominos is spot on.

spikyone

1,474 posts

101 months

Thursday 25th June 2020
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gigglebug said:
article said:
is that no chosen cocktail of chopping and changing seems to result in a wholly satisfying driving experWhich
Satisfying driving what now?
Just the standard "crop some letters/words out" PH editing. Seems to afflict a high proportion of articles that get published here.

whp1983 said:
Audi cliche bingo..... need not have read it!
Perhaps they're clichés for a reason.

It looks quite nice in this colour - a bit fussy but at least it hides the silly vents above the grille. Agree with the comments on touch screens, they're ridiculously difficult to use on the move in anything that doesn't ride like a Rolls Royce. The designers really should be made to perform basic touch screen tasks whilst driving along a typical British road. They might change their mind on them then. (And no, gesture control or voice control are not the answer. I have no desire to talk to, or wave at, an inanimate object)

nicfaz

432 posts

231 months

Thursday 25th June 2020
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spikyone said:
Perhaps they're clichés for a reason.

It looks quite nice in this colour - a bit fussy but at least it hides the silly vents above the grille. Agree with the comments on touch screens, they're ridiculously difficult to use on the move in anything that doesn't ride like a Rolls Royce. The designers really should be made to perform basic touch screen tasks whilst driving along a typical British road. They might change their mind on them then. (And no, gesture control or voice control are not the answer. I have no desire to talk to, or wave at, an inanimate object)
This is one of those things that several people seem exercised about, but I have a car with almost everything done through the touchscreen and never find it a problem at all wobble. Am I just odd? The only things I regularly use whilst moving are the music (large clear buttons on the touchscreen that are easy to find) or the satnav (favourites are easy, new addresses should be done whilst parked anyway). Other things such as indicators, music on/off and music volume are done through stalks and scroll wheels anyway, which are physical.

I can see why manufacturers want to do it because it means you can update control schemes through software, it's cheaper to make and much cheaper to go from left to right hand drive.

Meandering back to the car, once upon a time this would have been something really attractive to me, but now it's slower than my car which was £20k cheaper on a like-for-like spec, massively more expensive to run, worse residuals and looks a bit odd. It's interior is probably nicer so I guess if that's your number one criteria for car buying, maybe this would appeal?

Baldchap

7,697 posts

93 months

Thursday 25th June 2020
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The missus has a 2019 RS5 and it was driving that that caused me to buy an RS4 as a dogbus.

The thing articles like this miss, is that not everyone wants a car that is at ten tenths all the time. I drove the RS5 to Spain last year (the long way, via the tunnel) and there's absolutely no way I'd want to spend that long in the AMG or the M4 because the ride quality on both is absolutely unacceptable for a long distance or daily car. I wouldn't use my Elise for that journey either. Right tool for the job and all that.

I guess if you are a journalist and you get your 30 minute 'go' you can say it's unexciting compared to X, Y and Z, but the fact is (and it is a fact), these are an excellent car to own precisely because they aren't 'exciting', which in PH article speak means noisy, fidgety and bumpy.

So if you're a person who wants a fantastic, comfortable, rapid, surefooted car that won't shake your fillings our and give you a headache, the RS4/5 is absolutely excellent. I speak from real world experience of both. smile

Matt Bird

1,453 posts

206 months

PH Reportery Lad

Thursday 25th June 2020
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gigglebug said:
article said:
is that no chosen cocktail of chopping and changing seems to result in a wholly satisfying driving experWhich
Satisfying driving what now?

I like the aesthetics and I kinda like the idea of the RS5, and this might just be pot luck but the partners Audi has been the perfect ownership experience for her so far (even the dealer), but I’m still not sure that I would aspire to have one over the other choices of fast, midsized, four door rocket ships. Always been decent places to be in, in my experience anyhow, but bar a few noteworthy exceptions Audis have never got me that excited.
Argh, sorry, will get it sorted!

Matt Bird

1,453 posts

206 months

PH Reportery Lad

Thursday 25th June 2020
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whp1983 said:
Audi cliche bingo..... need not have read it!
I know, but thanks anyway thumbup Hopefully there'll be something else to write about them soon!



Matt Bird

1,453 posts

206 months

PH Reportery Lad

Thursday 25th June 2020
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Baldchap said:
The missus has a 2019 RS5 and it was driving that that caused me to buy an RS4 as a dogbus.

The thing articles like this miss, is that not everyone wants a car that is at ten tenths all the time. I drove the RS5 to Spain last year (the long way, via the tunnel) and there's absolutely no way I'd want to spend that long in the AMG or the M4 because the ride quality on both is absolutely unacceptable for a long distance or daily car. I wouldn't use my Elise for that journey either. Right tool for the job and all that.

I guess if you are a journalist and you get your 30 minute 'go' you can say it's unexciting compared to X, Y and Z, but the fact is (and it is a fact), these are an excellent car to own precisely because they aren't 'exciting', which in PH article speak means noisy, fidgety and bumpy.

So if you're a person who wants a fantastic, comfortable, rapid, surefooted car that won't shake your fillings our and give you a headache, the RS4/5 is absolutely excellent. I speak from real world experience of both. smile
Thanks for this! Probably a point we miss a bit given fairly limited exposure. But that always felt a bit like the S4/S5 role; the RS models should provide a bit more excitement when required and they just don't seem to. That said, with those cars now diesel I guess RS might be the only way to go!

Thanks again for getting involved - always nice to hear from someone who's actually spent their money (and not just freeloading journalists!)


Matt

gigglebug

2,611 posts

123 months

Thursday 25th June 2020
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Matt Bird said:
Argh, sorry, will get it sorted!
If it is any consolation I was half asleep when I initially read it and even went to the bother of looking it up to see if it was one of those newfangled expressions that go straight over my head before I actually worked out what it was meant to have said in the first place.

thecremeegg

1,965 posts

204 months

Thursday 25th June 2020
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Baldchap said:
The missus has a 2019 RS5 and it was driving that that caused me to buy an RS4 as a dogbus.

The thing articles like this miss, is that not everyone wants a car that is at ten tenths all the time. I drove the RS5 to Spain last year (the long way, via the tunnel) and there's absolutely no way I'd want to spend that long in the AMG or the M4 because the ride quality on both is absolutely unacceptable for a long distance or daily car. I wouldn't use my Elise for that journey either. Right tool for the job and all that.

I guess if you are a journalist and you get your 30 minute 'go' you can say it's unexciting compared to X, Y and Z, but the fact is (and it is a fact), these are an excellent car to own precisely because they aren't 'exciting', which in PH article speak means noisy, fidgety and bumpy.

So if you're a person who wants a fantastic, comfortable, rapid, surefooted car that won't shake your fillings our and give you a headache, the RS4/5 is absolutely excellent. I speak from real world experience of both. smile
Exciting doesn't necessarily have to equal uncomfortable, however they tend to go hand in hand because if a car is too comfy, it's going to be compromised when it comes to driver feedback and engagement. I don't doubt the RS5 is fast and comfy and great if you want a long distance cruiser with loads of grunt, but I very much doubt it would be a "fun" drive compared with something with stiffer suspension and more direct feedback.

That isn't to say the RS5 or RS4 etc are bad cars, they no doubt aren't, they just a bit mundane compared with something more hard-edged.

Baldchap

7,697 posts

93 months

Thursday 25th June 2020
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thecremeegg said:
Exciting doesn't necessarily have to equal uncomfortable, however they tend to go hand in hand because if a car is too comfy, it's going to be compromised when it comes to driver feedback and engagement. I don't doubt the RS5 is fast and comfy and great if you want a long distance cruiser with loads of grunt, but I very much doubt it would be a "fun" drive compared with something with stiffer suspension and more direct feedback.

That isn't to say the RS5 or RS4 etc are bad cars, they no doubt aren't, they just a bit mundane compared with something more hard-edged.
They're certainly nearer to GT than sports car, but they're not as numb as a lot of people seem to read and repeat. With commitment you can get the back out. laugh

Got the Elise and the bike if I want to get a bit more raw.

Ruskie

3,991 posts

201 months

Thursday 25th June 2020
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That colour is stunning!!

TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,118 posts

213 months

Thursday 25th June 2020
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arkenphel said:
Why the big push to remove idrive type controllers from cars. I find muscle memory with clicky controls so much safer than prodding icons on a screen. These designers don't really live in a practical world, I think sometimes.
Totally agree, I think touchscreens have their place, but key controls (temperature of the AC, radio etc) should be buttons.

9k rpm

522 posts

211 months

Thursday 25th June 2020
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Lovely looking thing.
A shame it sounds a bit dull to drive and will be nicked by machete wielding thugs via kicking the front door in within days of it sitting on the drive.
Alas it seems that’s the fate of a lot of fast Audi’s these days.
Maybe in a couple of years when it’s appeal to the scum has diminished and it’s depreciated (a lot) it will be a more attractive ownership proposition.

ogrodz

179 posts

121 months

Thursday 25th June 2020
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That screen, in the middle of the dashboard....