okfoz

There was another thread and this struck me... Below are the color availabilities for each year by Firebrd model Not sure if I have ever seen this before, so here it goes (Sorry Camaro guys I do not have the info to do this for you.

Keep in mind that these are from the Dealer order Worksheets, they do change over the period of the model year, and there are options for Exceptions some years...

1982
Firebird
11 - White
16 - Silver Metallic
19 - Black
21 Light Blue Metallic
29 - Dark Blue Metallic
45 - Light Jadestone (Blue-Green) Met
49 - Dark Jadestone (Blue Green) Met
55 - Gold Metallic
67 - Dark Gold Metallic
75 - Bright Red
78 - Maroon Metallic
84 - Dark Charcoal Metallic

S/E
19 - Black
29 - Dark Blue Metallic
45 - Light Jadestone (Blue-Green) Met
55 - Gold Metallic
78 - Maroon Metallic
84 - Dark Charcoal Metallic

Trans Am
11 - White
16 - Silver Metallic
19 - Black
21 - Light Blue Metallic
75 - Bright Red


1983
Firebird
11 - White
15 - Silver Sand Metallic
19 - Black
22 - Lt Royal Blue Metallic
27 - Dark Royal Blue Metallic
59 - Beige
62 - Lt Brown Metallic
67 - Dark Brown Metallic
75 - Bright Red
82 - Dark Sand Met

S/E
11 - White W/ Lt Brown Met Lower
19 - Black W/ Silver Sand Met Lower
22 - Lt Royal Blue Metallic W/ Dk Royal Blue Metallic Lower
59 - Beige W/ Gold Met Lower
62 - Lt Brown Metallic W/ Dk Brown Met Lower
67 - Dark Brown Metallic W/Lt Brown Met Lower
75 - Bright Red W/Silver Sand Met Lower
82 - Dark Sand Met W/Silver Sand Met Lower

T/A
11 - White W/Black Lower
15 - Silver Sand Metallic W/Black Lower
19 - Black W/ Gold Lower
27 - Dark Royal Blue Metallic W/Black Lower
75 - Bright Red W/ Black Lower

1984
Firebird
11 - White
15 - Silver Sand Metallic
19 - Black
22 - Lt Royal Blue Metallic
27 - Dark Royal Blue Metallic
59 - Beige
62 - Lt Brown Metallic
67 - Dark Brown Metallic
75 - Bright Red
82 - Dark Sand Met

Firebird W/2-tone D84
62 - Lt Brown Met W/ Dk Brown Met Lower
75 - Bright Red W/Dark Sand Gray Met Lower

T/A W/O Aero Package
11 - White W/Black Lower
15 - Silver Sand Metallic W/Black Lower
19 - Black W/ Gold Lower
27 - Dark Royal Blue Metallic W/Black Lower
65 - Dark Gold Met W/Gold Met Lower
75 - Bright Red W/ Black Lower

Trans Am - W62 Aero Color Determined by Combination Ext/Int Colors
11 - White
15 - Silver Sand Metallic
19 - Black
27 - Dark Royal Blue Metallic
59 - Beige
65 - Dark Gold Met
67 - Dark Brown Metallic
75 - Bright Red
82 - Dark Sand Met

S/E
11 - White
15 - Silver Sand Metallic
19 - Black W/ Silver Sand Metallic
22 - Lt Royal Blue Metallic W/ Dark Royal Blue Metallic
59 - Beige W/Gold Met Lower
62 - Lt Brown Metallic W/Dark Brown Metallic
67 - Dark Brown Metallic W/Lt Brown Metallic
75 - Bright Red W/ Silver Sand Metallic
82 - Dark Sand Met W/ Silver Sand Metallic

1985
Firebird
11 - White
12 - Silver Met
15 - Med Gray Met
19 - Black
26 - Dk Blue
30 - Bright Blue
50 - Yellow
54 - Yellow Beige
60 - Lt Chestnut Met
69 - Russet Met
75 - Blaze Red
78 - Maroon

Firebird 2 tone D84
15L 12U - Med Gray Met Lower, Silver Met Upper
15L 50U - Med Gray Met Lower, Yellow Upper
15L 75U - Med Gray Met Lower, Blaze Red Upper

SE
12L 15U - Silver Met Lower, Med Gray Met Upper
12L 19U - Silver Met Lower, Black Upper
12L 26U - Silver Met Lower, Dk Blue Upper
12L 75U - Silver Met Lower, Blaze Red upper
12L 78U - Silver Met Lower, Maroon Upper
15L 60U - Med Gray Met Lower, Lt Chestnut Met Upper
60L 54U - Lt Chestnut Met lower, Yellow Beige Upper
60L 69U - Lt Chestnut Met Lower, Russet Metallic Upper

Trans Am
Solid
11 - White
12 - Silver Met
19 - Black
60 - Lt Chestnut Met
78 - Maroon

Two Tone
11U - White W/ Lt Chestnut Aero
12U - Silver Met W/ Med Gray Met Aero
19U - Black W/ Lt Chestnut Aero
26U - Dk Blue W/ Silver Aero
30U - Bright Blue W/ Silver Aero
50U - Yellow W/ Med Gray Met Aero
69U - Russet Met W/ Lt Chestnut Aero
75U - Blaze Red W/ Silver Aero

1986
Firebird
Solid
40 - White
41 - Black
81 - Bright Red Met
84 - Med Gray Met

Two-Tone D84
13L 23U - Silver Lower, Bright Blue Upper
13L 28U - Silver Lower, Midnight Blue Upper
13L 41U - Silver Lower, Black Upper
13L 68U - Silver Lower, BDk Brown Met Upper
13L 81U - Silver Lower, Bright red Upper
13L 84U - Silver Lower, Med Gray Met Upper
60L 66U - Champagne Gold Met Lower - Russet Met Upper
60L 74U - Champagne Gold Met Lower - Flame Red Upper
84L 13U - Met Gray Met Lower - Silver Met Upper
84L 40U - Met Gray Met Lower - White Upper
84L 51U - Met Gray Met Lower - Yellow Upper
84L 60U - Met Gray Met Lower - Champagne Gold Met Upper

S/E
13L 28U - Silver Lower, Midnight Blue Upper
13L 41U - Silver Lower, Black Upper
13L 84U - Silver Lower, Med Gray Met Upper
60L 66U - Champagne Gold Met Lower - Russet Met Upper
60L 74U - Champagne Gold Met Lower - Flame Red Upper
84L 40U - Met Gray Met Lower - White Upper
84L 60U - Met Gray Met Lower - Champagne Gold Met Upper
84L 81U - Met Gray Met Lower - Bright Red Upper

Trans Am
13U - Silver Met w/Med Gray Aero
23U - Bright Blue Met W/ Silver Met Aero
28U - Midnight Blue Met W/ Silver Met Aero
40U - White
41U - Black
41U - Black w/ Champagne Gold Aero
51U - Yellow W/Med Gray Met Aero
60U - Champagne Gold Met
66U - Russet Met w/ Champagne Gold Aero
68U - Dark Brown Met w/ Champagne Gold Aero
74U - Flame Red Met W/ Flame Red Aero
81U - Bright Red W/ Silver Met Aero
81U - Bright Red

1987
Firebird & Formula SOLID
40 - White
23 - Bright Blue Met
41 - Black
81 - Bright Red

Firebird 2-Tone
13L 23U - Silver Lower, Bright Blue upper
13L 28U - Silver Lower, Midnight Blue
13L 41U - Silver Lower, Black upper
13L 81U - Silver Lower, Bright Red upper
13L 84U - Silver Lower, Gray Met upper
60L 68U - Champagne Gold Met Lower, Dark Brown Upper
60L 74U - Champagne Gold Met Lower, Flame Red Met Upper
84L 40U - Med Gray Lower, White Upper

Formula 2-Tone
13L 23U - Silver Lower, Bright Blue upper
13L 41U - Silver Lower, Black upper
13L 81U - Silver Lower, Bright Red upper
13L 84U - Silver Lower, Gray Met upper
84L 40U - Med Gray Lower, White Upper
84L 51U - Med Gray Lower, Yellow Upper

Trans Am
13U - Silver Upper, Med Gray Aero
23U - Bright Blue Upper, Silver Aero
28U - Midnight Blue Met Upper, Silver Aero
41U - Black W/ Champagne Gold Aero
74U - Flame Red Met W/ Silver Aero
81U - Bright Red W/ Silver Aero

GTA
40 - White
41 - Black
68 - Dark Brown
74 - Flame Red
81 - Bright Red
84 - Med Gray Met

1988
Firebird
23 - Silver Blue Met
40 - White
41 - Black
81 - Bright Red
13L 23U - Silver Met Lower, Silver Blue Met Upper
13L 74U - Silver Met Lower, Flame Red Met Upper
13L 81U - Silver Met Lower, Bright Red Upper
13L 87U - Silver Met Lower, Med Gray Upper
13L 41U - Silver Met Lower, Black Upper
87L 40U - Med Gray Met Lower, White Upper

Formula
(WX1 2-tone delete)
23 - Silver Blue Met
40 - White
41 - Black
81 - Bright Red
(2 tone)
13L 23U - Silver Met Lower, Silver Blue Met Upper
13L 63U - Silver Met Lower, Medium Orange Met Upper (Added Mid Year)
13L 81U - Silver Met Lower, Bright Red Upper
13L 41U - Silver Met Lower, Black Upper
87L 40U - Med Gray Met Lower, White Upper
87L 51U - Med Gray Met Lower, Yellow Upper (Dropped Mid Year)

Trans Am
23 - Silver Blue W/ Silver Aero
40 - White W/White Aero
41 - Black W/Black
81 - Bright Red W/Bright Red (WW8)
81 - Bright Red W/Silver Met (WW2)

GTA
40 - White
41 - Black
74 - Flame Red Met
81 - Bright Red
87 - Med Gray Met

1989
Firebird
23 - Silver Blue Met
40 - White
41 - Black
74 - Flame Red Met - Added Oct 88
81 - Bright Red
13L 23U - Silver Lower, Silver Blue Met Upper
13L 41U - Silver Lower, Black Upper
13L 74U - Silver Lower, Flame Red Met Upper
13L 81U - Silver Lower, Bright Red Upper
13L 87U - Silver Lower, Med Gray Met Upper
87L 40U - Med Gray Met Lower - White Upper

Formula
23 - Silver Blue Met
40 - White
41 - Black
74 - Flame Red Met - Added Oct 88
81 - Bright Red
13L 23U - Silver Lower, Silver Blue Met Upper
13L 41U - Silver Lower, Black Upper
13L 81U - Silver Lower, Bright Red Upper
87L 40U - Med Gray Met Lower - White Upper

Trans Am
40 - White / White Aero
41 - Black / Black Aero
81 - Bright Red / Bright Red Aero (WW8)
81 - Bright Red / Silver Aero (WW2)
87 - Med Gray / Silver Aero (WW2)
98 - Bright Blue Met / Silver Aero (WW2)

GTA
40 - White
41 - Black
74 - Flame Red Met
81 - Bright Red
87 - Med Gray

1990
Firebird & Formula
23 - Silver Blue Met
40 - White
41 - Black
75 - Brilliant Red Met
81 - Bright Red
87 - Med Gray Met
13L 23U - Silver Lower, Silver Blue Met Upper
13L 41U - Silver Lower, Black Upper
13L 81U - Silver Lower, Bright Red Upper
87L 40U - Med Gray Lower, White Upper

Trans Am
40 - White
41 - Black
75 - Brilliant Red Met
81 - Bright Red
87 - Med Gray Met W/Silver Aero (WW2)
98 - Bright Blue Met W/ Silver Aero (WW2)

GTA
40 - White
41 - Black
75 - Brilliant Red Met
81 - Bright Red
87 - Med Gray Met

1991
Firebird & Formula
10 - Bright White
23 - Silver Blue (NA Firebird With W68)
37 - Dark Aqua Met - Introduced January 10, 1991
41 - Black
45 - Dark Green Met
75 - Brilliant Red Met
81 - Bright Red
87 - Med Gray Met
98 - Bright Blue Met

Trans Am
10 - Bright White
41 - Black
45 - Dark Green Met
75 - Brilliant Red Met
81 - Bright Red
87 - Med Gray Met
98 - Bright Blue Met

GTA
10 - Bright White
41 - Black
45 - Dark Green Met
75 - Brilliant Red Met
81 - Bright Red
87 - Med Gray Met

1992
Firebird & Formula
10 - Arctic White
18 - Dark Jade Gray Met
37 - Dark Aqua Met
41 - Black
45 - Dark Green
52 - Yellow
75 - Brilliant Red Metallic (NA W/O W68, NA on Formula)
80 - Bright Blue Met
81 - Bright Red

Trans Am
10 - Arctic White
18 - Dark Jade Gray Met
41 - Black
45 - Dark Green
52 - Yellow
75 - Brilliant Red Met
80 - Bright Blue Met
81 - Bright Red

GTA
10 - Arctic White
18 - Dark Jade Gray Met
41 - Black
45 - Dark Green
52 - Yellow
75 - Brilliant Red Met
80 - Bright Blue Met
81 - Bright Red

NOTES: From 85 - 90, the Trans Am and GTA I believe did not get the RPO for the Lower color, I believe they were encoded with the WW# RPOs. Here is what I believe to be correct for those colors, may not be exhaustive, but a start at least 84 I do not have any information, I suspect it should be the same, but the info was not there to be determined.

WW1 - White (40 or 11
WW2 - Silver Met (13)
WW3 - Med Gray Met (87)
WW4 - Black (19 or 41)
WW5 - Lt Chestnut aka Champagne Gold(60)
WW6 - Flame Red Met (74)
WW7 - ?
WW8 - Bright Red (81)
WW9 - ?

Hope that helps

AmorgetRS

iTrader: (6)

Now we just need pictures to go with each color

okfoz

Like that would not get out of hand... I have paint chips...

Restrorob

iTrader: (7)

Good info okfoz, Is this is just a typo since all other 81's don't show Met ?



Also...... When researching the paint code for my 88 GTA, I found 81U, I don't know what the U designates so when I go to buy paint do I just use 81 or 81U ?

Thanks,

RockinGTA89

nice comprehensive list there!

JT

iTrader: (1)

The U is for Upper and the L is for Lower. On a GTA they're the same (81U and 81L, 41U and 41L, etc.,) since the GTAs were all solid colors and never two-tone from the factory.

eseibel67

Definitely no metallic in Bright Red 81.

What a boring name for a color. Automotive should use more playful names for paint colours like the household indoor paint names. Instead of "Bright Red" it could be called "Stripper's Lips".

blacksunshine'91

iTrader: (10)

Restrorob

iTrader: (7)

Thanks for the clarification Mr JT, It just didn't soak in since the car is all the same color.....

RockinGTA89

well i always thought pontiac was creative with their paint scheme names in the past, like lucerne blue, or starlight black, or Sunset Orange Metallic. I always liked the name Flame Red Metallic...I think the camaro (3rd gen) had the same color paint only it was called something else...

okfoz

Keep in mind that these colors do change from Chevrolet to Pontiac in some cases. For example, for 88+ the term Maui Blue was also used for color 23, instead of the Silver Blue Metallic... This is from the dealer order sheet, the name of the color may be different in the literature handed out to customers, I believe "Yellow Gold" 50 & 51 was used for (85-88) and "Jamaica Yellow" 52 in 1992 was referenced somewhere..

xcalibur

74-Flame Red Met
should be included for the 1989 Trans Am (only)

okfoz

I only found it for the GTA, and as a 2 tone on the Firebird, it was later available as a solid color on the Formula and Firebird. Not available as a 2 tone on the Formula, I have 3 versions of the order sheets, none of which show it for the Trans Am in 1989...

If you have a reference I would be more than happy to add it. Even possibly a car with the RPOs showing as such.

xcalibur

When I ordered my 1989 Formula 350 (in '88), Van Nuys replied to my dealer that "Flame Red Metalic was a Trans Am only" color, and tried to cancel my order. I had also had spec'ed the 2-tone delete option. I traded the car in '95, and doubt that I can find any paperwork. This was the only car that I have ever ordered, and I remember all the details intimately.

JT

iTrader: (1)

Here's a Pontiac Bulletin about the Flame Red 74, thanks to GTASourcepage:

xcalibur

Thanks for posting this. Apparently I placed my order prior to October 24th, 1988. The sleezy dealership took credit for interceding on my behalf, and said that THEY had told them (Van Nuys) to "just build the car anyway".

AmorgetRS

iTrader: (6)

Unfortunately it seems that people were told things like this all too often back in the day...

okfoz

Dealers I think often would rather not sell certain things. It is kind of like they have no desire to go a little bit out of their way to make a customer happy.. It is like the 1LE cars, I have heard where people had tried to order them only to be told they do not exist...

John

xcalibur

This is also a way to make one believe there is something special,
or rare about a car, when really it is not. (Speaking from experience).

eseibel67

The dealership (phoney baloney BS based business) told the factory (engineering based business) to "just build it anyway". Yeah right.

Simply place your order with the salesman with the right clout, he'll fix you up with a nice little 5.7 liter TPI, 5 speed and a 3.73 posi.

AmorgetRS

iTrader: (6)

To be fair, there is a huge difference between picking an non-emission tested driveline combination (HUGE fines to GM) and a paint color on a certain model (arbitrary choice made by GM).

eseibel67

True, but my point is that order restrictions are in place for a reason (may not be a good reason), and they cannot be short circuited by dealership request for a one off.

1tinindian

The code 75 red for my 1983 T/A is called "Spectra" red, not Bright red.
I think it was the same for 1982.
"Bright" red was code 81 in the later model years.

Spectra red is a lot darker than Bright red, side by side, two very different shades of red.

Leon

My brothers code 81 Bright red 1991 Firebird with my code 75 Spectra red 1983 Trans Am.

JT

iTrader: (1)

The 1982-1984 Pontiac Product books refer to Code 75 as "Bright Red". That may be where John got it from. As Scott Moyer has pointed out before, GM was known to use different names for the same color.

Here's the chart from the 1983 Pontiac product book:

1tinindian

http://paintref.com/cgi-bin/paintdet...%20Red%7C21800

http://paintref.com/cgi-bin/colorcod...?color=Spectra Red


Code 75 has always been Spectra Red in my eyes.

JT

iTrader: (1)

I've seen Spectra used before. I was just saying that Pontiac's product book simply referred to it as "Bright Red" and that's the source John used - albeit I think he said he used the dealer order sheet. The attachment I posted above is from Pontiac's 1983 product book.

1tinindian

No problem, I was only trying to show that there can be a confusion when calling code 75 Bright red, when it is actually known as Spectra red.

As I have been an automotive painter for several years and looking up and mixing different paints, I have seen the differences in the way the different GM reds are referred to in the color matching books.

I just wouldn't want someone using this list as a reference for a restoration and take the wrong info in and get the wrong shade of red mixed for their car. But a better way would be to use the manufactures "WA" paint code, regardless of what the paint color name is.

Leon

RockinGTA89

good point 1tin, if i was getting my car repainted i would make sure it's the correct color code as well. Hence why you go based on the SPID sheet where the color codes are located. There are times when i had to get the paint code for certain vehicles when matching parts i'm ordering, so i don't get paired with the different shades and ending up with the wrong color coded part.

I always hated when people called my car color "maroon", yeah it's a universal lingo for the color of my car, but i've always referred it as "flame red metallic" per dealer code/spid sheet. Plus it has metallic paint in it, as it's not a flat color!

"Spectra Red"- i like that name. See! As i said before Pontiac always had a knack with some "colorful" names...

okfoz

This is by far one of the most incorrect statements out there. Please understand I have no tact.

However I do know for a fact that at one time it was quite possible to get a car painted any color you wanted, even if it was not offered for a particular vehicle. That is why there are 2 1987 Yellow T-type Buick Regals out there. A friend of my fathers, his name is Brian, wanted a Yellow Turbo Buick Regal, the dealer said it was NA, After some coercion, twisting of arms and haggling the factory went ahead and made the car. They actually made two, one for him, and the other was a stock item for the dealership. It has become almost unheard of today, but back then things were possible, when you had the money and you had the contacts. Keep in mind the car is in Flint, MI, where the home of Buick was at the time. Brian also made parts for GM, so I am sure he had some "friends" But never generalize. Things are possible that most of us consider impossible. What is probably the most interesting thing about the story is it was actually a Grand National, but they used regular bumpers on the car like the T-type... And yes, I have seen the car, I have spotted it actually at the Sloan Buick Research Gallery in Flint. Whether or not it was a GN I do not know, that was just part of the story of how it was made.

okfoz

I will agree, the color is different for the early 3rd gens. The "Spectra Red" as you call it was one of those colors that had multiple names. I got my information directly from Dealer Car Order Worksheets that I have for Firebirds. It is clearly 75-Bright Red on the 82 worksheet... The important part of the equation would be the color number itself (75) IT did change in 1986..

If you look at the color codes, 1986 was the only year that Every color changed number.
11 White Became 40
12 Silver became 13
15 Gray became 84
19 Black Became 41
26 Dk Blue became 28
30 Bright Blue became 23
50 Yellow became 51
69 Copper became 66
75 Red became 81
78 Met Red became 81

The only color I found that did not change was the 60 Lt Brown or Chestnut that remained the same...

The question must be asked, Why were all colors changed in 1986? The answer may be more simple than we might expect. Starting in 1986, the BCCC process was implemented on the Firebirds and Camaros. Now I have read where people claim to have a BCCC 85, so it may have been a crossover mid year. Nonetheless, it is the only year to have almost every color number (except the one) change... IT would make sense.

As for the difference in the colors, yes they are different, my 83 Camaro and 83 Trans Am are slightly darker than my 91 Firebird.

The name itself is not important, it is the number associated with it.

Now that I said all of that, I am not sure that the color that was originally applied to the 86-92 cars is still available. The WA number is 8774, but last time I checked you could not get 8774, the only color you could get was the 8784 (I forget the exact number) My 89 is slightly darker than what is now being offered as a replacement color. My original (crappy) paint 89 next to an 84... Color is almost identical.

My 91 has been repainted, and it is a brighter color, more like your Brothers car. It may be that they changed the 81 color as well, I do not know. My friends 86 that I bought paint for was a little darker red than what I could get too...

John

Genesyn

Holy hell thank you for this:

"19U - Black W/ Lt Chestnut Aero"

I've trying like crazy to put a name to the color on my ground effects of my 85 so I can find touch up paint the right color. Finally, a starting point!

EDIT: Well crap...
Light Chestnut Metallic 58/WA8575
Light Chestnut Metallic 60E/WA8590
Light Chestnut Metallic 60W/WA8606
Light Chestnut Metallic 61/WA8566


which one???? /facepalm

okfoz

WW5 - Lt Chestnut aka Champagne Gold(60)
should be the same as the 60U..

My suspicion would be either of these:
Light Chestnut Metallic 60E/WA8590
Light Chestnut Metallic 60W/WA8606

Go to an automotive paint store, look through their books, specifically 1985, and then look for the light chestnut. I probably have the WA paint colors around here somewhere I just do not remember where right now.

Rabble-Rouser

I have been eyeballing a 1985 hardtop TA with the super plush red/russet and grey interior. Unmolested(neglected otherwise) and I am still circling whether or not I should pick it up on the sheer fact it's weird and the price is nearly right the 'stable' is large. I don't see them often. Given the most I see are black, and/or red.

But I am not a hardtop person. LOL

AmorgetRS

iTrader: (6)

It would depend a lot on the engine/transmission option for me. LG4 Automatic, I'd pass. L69 5-speed, I'd seriously consider it.

bjpotter

Thanks for the list Okfoz. I started the earlier thread about 91 & 92 colors. I was also wondering about how many of each color they made. Since I started looking for a project car, I just noticed the great majority of them were Red, Black and White. I didn't know if this was just the luck of survivors or those three colors made up 40 to 50% of the production numbers. GTA's and TA's even more so. I've only seen 1 Aqua and 2 yellow Firebirds up for sale. Only one yellow one was a Formula. I have to believe dealers would have ordered more of the big three colors anyway.
I take from the list that the common colors changed between 91 and 92 or is that just a change in name only?

bjpotter

I guess I'm asking about the difference in Whites. I see the other is the use of met colors or not between years.

Rabble-Rouser

Ah, yeah it's LG4 auto so that's a pity. I was impressed that it ran and drove given that it's been sitting awhile, ran way better than expected. I'll think on it and run some of the codes for interior etc and see if there are any unexpected perks. It drove itself from Kansas to Texas to Oregon I'll give it some leeway for being a 'clinger'.

Thanks!

okfoz

IIRC,
91-92 10U Bright White is the brightest White
82-85 11U is Not quite as bright of a White as the 10U
86-90 40U is even more Pale in color.

You park them side by side and you can see there are differences. Here is a pic that shows the difference between the 1984 White (11U) on the right, and the 1989 TTA White (40U) on the left. You can only really see that there is a difference between the two when parked next to each other)

I do not have a pic showing the difference between either of those an the 91-92 white.

Bob88GTA

iTrader: (2)

Interesting old thread and great information! Thanks okfoz!

1988 Gunmetal Gray on my GTA....or 87 - Med Gray Met, which is the same

eseibel67

Got this file online somewhere years ago. Not sure if it's accurate, but it's 7 for 7 on the F-body's that I know the paint codes on.

okfoz

eseibel67,
Thank you for this. I might just trim it up for third gens if I ever get around to it.

Unfortunately I found one quick error, in 1989 there was no Yellow on the Camaro. Yellow (51) stopped mid-year in 1988, then it changed to Orange Metallic (Very similar to the sunset orange on the later 4th gens) for a partial year.

Good stuff.

John

TheJoeY88

iTrader: (2)

for 1992 code 80 was called Medium Quasar Blue

Crazfox

Appreciate this list
but
There is an error. My 1987 Pontiac trans am was. Russet Metallic with
Champagne Gold Metallic pinstripes

First of five fIrebirds I owned 91 formula v8 95 TA and 2002 TA

okfoz

I did not know pinstripes were available on the GTA. There would be an RPO code for them, so check your RPO's colors are always 2 numbers followed by a letter. 52U for example means Jamaca Yellow UPPER, 52L means Jamacia Yellow LOWER, Here are some standard Letters
A= Body Accent Stripe
B= Cloth Interior Trim
C= Cloth Interior Trim
D= Cloth Interior Trim
E= Cloth Interior Trim
F= Covering Floor Mat, Color
G= Cloth Interior Trim
H= Cloth Interior Trim
I= Interior Trim
J= Cloth Interior Trim
K= Unknown
L= lower (Secondary) Paint
M= Unknown
N= Interior Trim Combination
O= Unknown
P= Wheel Color
Q= Molding Color
R= Unknown
S= Unknown
T= T-Top Color
U= Upper (Primary) Paint
V= All Vinyl interior Trim
W= All Vinyl interior Trim
X= Unknown
Y= All Vinyl interior Trim
Z= All Vinyl interior Trim
1= Interior Trim
2= Leather with Articulating Seats
3= Leather
4= Leather
5= Leather
6= Leather
7= Unknown
8= Cloth Interior Trim
9= Seat Belts

Trans AM GTX

Do any of you know which colour interiors came with which colour exteriors for the Trans AM GTA? I'm specifically interested to know whether the Red interior was available on the Bright Red GTA. I've seen quite a few of the Flame Red GTAs with the Red Interior but no Bright Red ones. If anyone's an expert in this area it would probably be useful to have a interior-exterior colour matrix posted here for future reference for others.

okfoz

Facts:
1) The Red Interior (72) (Carmine) was only for 87-88 for the GTA
2) For 1988, the Carmine Red was NA on the GTA, and none were produced. (5521 total, 3796 Base, 1012 Formula & 713 Trans Am)

So that basically leaves us with only 1987... And that information is scarce, There was no Leather Carmine color available in 1987, so they would have been all cloth seats.

The following colors and models could be had with the Red interior in 1987
74U Flame Red Metallic - Base Firebird, Trans Am & GTA (NA on Formula)
40U White - Firebird, Formula
13U Silver - Trans Am ONLY

Therefore to answer your question: NO there were no Bright Red GTA's with the Red (Carmine) interior.

John

Trans AM GTX

Thanks for this info; this helps with a purchase decision on one. I was torn between getting the Flame Red one with a Carmine interior or holding out for a Bright Red with Carmine - now I think I'll go with the Flame Red and get creative with a new custom paint job!

3rdgenhardcore

I have a 1984 Trans Am in orange metallic. How odd is that?